![]() if you find a way to turn it into something else, you are almost certainly fucking yourself. use a scale, don't chase euphoria, this is a functional stimulant only. you will pay in the form of headaches, and general unpleasant feelings. it's a classic stimulant, plus perhaps with some serotonin action, it's not a toy. but again i don't chase large doses, i'm primarily interested in the anti-adhd effect.Ĭhasing euphoria with this type of drug is a mistake, imo. I wake up energized and i don't have any come down. a low dose tends to stimulate appetite if anything. I can sleep on this stuff, after a point, and it is not a huge appetite suppressant until you go to higher doses. i like insufflation but 4-cl-pvp is a bit more caustic than 4-meo-pvp and similar to mdpv in this regard I got this chem 4-CL-PVP and thought it was junk because it didn't give me orgasmic euphoria after vaping compared to A-PVP and A-PHP. 3,4-CL-PVP is supposed to have the best Ki values on paper but that doesn't always translate to great effects. that's my average pattern and it works quite well for this type of drug. Likely a mediocre DNRI with a rush which won't compare to PV, PHP et. I like to take a 10-25 mg dose for 2-3 days and then leave it alone for 2 weeks. lower doses are stimulating with no after effects. I find 4-cl-pvp, 4-meo-pvp and mdpv to all give me a headache with high oral doses (30mg+). So when i buy 1g it can last me for a year i am not the guy who stays up for 24 hours or does high doses or expects to smoke it like crack. I have a very low tolerance for these types of substances. I found 4-meo-pvp to be similar to but nicer than mdpv I found this to be similar to 4-meo-pvp but stronger and more irritating on sensitive nasal tissues I will most likely order more if available in the future. I can say after a few days on a binge using of 500mg more or less (would not recommend since there is no information on dosage with this chemical), I experienced no schizophrenia (voices) whatsoever. Even when under the effects of this on this substance you could get some sleep. Unfortunately there is no strong dopamine rush with this chem. The comedown of this substance is barely there except an urge to redose. I saw slight smoke like patterning on walls and the air around me, barely visible hallucinations which I found strange but fascinating. The effects are very short lived though any ROA. Another method that I used was to crush up around 20-30 mg and lace joints with them. I also found a way to vape this using a PG/etizolam solution I had on hand using several tiny drops and mixing the powdered crystals. I tried nasal and it burns pretty bad, but I did it anyways. After rigorous testing I found that if you dont relate it it to it's more aggressive cousins, this drug also can be compulsive in its on category.
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